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Ethical Storytelling co-curator, Rachel Goble, sits down with her father, Roy Goble, to discuss ethical storytelling for donors. Roy Goble joined his family’s growing real estate business in his early 20’s and as the business flourished, he experienced the complexity of creating wealth while living generously. Today he runs a real estate investment company, sits on the board of multiple non-profits and is the author of Junkyard Wisdom and Salvaged. Edited into three episodes, this first podcast episode touches on a donors role in consuming verses participating in the stories of a nonprofit or social enterprise as Roy reflects on his own failures.